The Edge of Human & AI — Where Human Potential Meets Artificial Intelligence
The Edge
of Human & AI
Coaching is changing. AI is here. And nobody has all the answers yet. This is the podcast for coaches, leaders, and thinkers who want to go deeper than the hype — into the real questions about what it means to be human in an age of intelligent machines.
Bold conversations. Uncomfortable edges.
No easy answers.
Welcome to the Edge.
Season 1 - Special
We are starting our podcast with this special season from the Leading Voices of the NYU Coaching & Technology Summit 2026. We will bring you bold, unfiltered conversations at the frontier where coaching meets technology and artificial intelligence. Expect real talk, sharp minds, and unfiltered conversations where we dare to ask the difficult questions.
Season 1 - Leading Voices
New Episodes - OUT NOW
From Wild West to Apple Store and Why The Profession Isn't Going to Solve AI Alone
Susan Caesar is the first-ever Chief AI Officer at the International Coaching Federation and founder of Humane Org. Her career has had one red thread: being human. And her message to the coaching profession right now? You don't have to figure this out alone.
In this conversation with Rebecca Rutschmann, Susan makes a passionate case for community as the antidote to overwhelm — AI circles, chapter conversations, shared learning — because the coaching profession's greatest strength has always been how it shows up together. She also pulls no punches on big tech's accountability problem, draws a hard line on "AI is not a coach," and shares ICF's vision for where the profession is heading: a marketplace like the Apple Store, programming like Netflix, and a community that's finally moving from fear to action.
How Can We Make Care More Intelligent Without Making It Less Human?
Dr. Moain Abu Dabrh is a medical humanist, researcher at Mayo Clinic, and board member at the National Board for Health and Wellness Coaching — and he's been asking one question his entire career: How can we make care more intelligent without making it less human?
In this conversation with Rebecca Rutschmann, he unpacks four real concerns about AI in healthcare — dehumanization, overconfidence, inequity, and the regulatory unknown — while making a powerful case for whole person care and why health and wellness coaches are the missing link between the clinic and lasting human change. He's not a pessimist. He's a pragmatist. And his closing thought? These days, we're finally asking better questions.
What if AI isn't pushing us away from our humanity but is forcing us back to it? Dr. Anna Tavis, co-founder of the NYU Coaching & Technology Summit, joins Rebecca Rutschmann to mark five years at the intersection of coaching and technology. From a handful of masked startups and early scale-ups in 2022 to CHROs from Netflix and IBM rethinking everything — the landscape has transformed, and coaches can no longer afford to watch from the sidelines.
Anna makes the case that coaching is the antidote to automation. And that the next frontier isn't just the boardroom, it's health, education, and the whole of human life.
A conversation about technology, humanity, and what it means to shape the future rather than be shaped by it
Health coaching is growing fast — wearables are tracking everything, AI is entering the wellness space, and more people than ever are looking for support beyond the clinic. But who's making sure any of it actually works? Deanna Fournier and the National Board for Health and Wellness Coaching are.
In this conversation, Deanna unpacks why a rigorous credentialing body isn't bureaucracy — it's protection. Protection for clients navigating a market that's moving faster than its standards. She makes the case for why health coaching belongs inside healthcare systems, not alongside them, and why the explosion of digital health tools only makes the human, credentialed coach more essential — not less.
There are 120,000 certified coaches on the planet. There are 4 billion people who could use one. And right now, it's tech companies — not coaches — who are deciding what coaching means for all of them.
Lewin Keller, founder of CoachBot.ai, joins Rebecca Rutschmann for one of the most honest conversations in this series. A former Google engineer turned coach turned AI builder, he pulls no punches on the responsibility gap in AI coaching, the design mistakes organisations make, and why coaches who are sitting on the sidelines are running out of time.
This is the wake-up call the profession needs — delivered with passion, data, and zero filter.
Woody Woodward, Chief Coaching Officer at BetterUp and co-author of The Digital Coaching Revolution, leads the world's largest coaching network across 70 countries. In this conversation, Woody shares what the world’s largest coaching dataset reveals about effective practice and introduces BetterUp's new data-driven GUIDE framework.
We explore why 51% of employees want a blend of human and AI support, how digital tools actually increase human engagement, and why optimism is a critical mindset for coaches today. Woody provides a grounded perspective on the responsibility of guiding professionals through complex transitions and what it means to humanize the experience of work.
What if the true measure of AI coaching isn’t how perfectly it mimics human empathy, but how effectively it leverages structured psychological frameworks?
Nicky Terblanche has been building the empirical evidence base for AI coaching long before the rest of the world paid attention. A former software engineer turned executive coach and academic, Nicky recently received the prestigious Anthony Grant Award for Research Excellence in Boston.
In this conversation, we explore his most surprising findings: why a CBT-based AI outperformed traditional GROW models, why users prefer a slightly more directive digital counterpart, and why the working alliance with a chatbot matters far less than we think. Nicky provides a masterclass in separating empirical evidence from industry hype.
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